

EP 227: Education Futures for School Leadership - Riel Miller, Stephen Murgatroyd & JC Couture
11 snips Aug 18, 2025
Riel Miller, a thought leader in futures thinking, is joined by Stephen Murgatroyd, a former business school dean focused on organizational change, and JC Couture, an expert in educational strategic planning. They discuss the urgent need for educational reform to prepare students for a rapidly changing world. The conversation highlights the transformative potential of schools as innovation hubs and the impact of digital media on learning. They advocate for future-oriented leadership that embraces hope, community engagement, and innovative competency assessment.
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Industrial Model Limits Schooling
- Riel Miller argues K-12 remains stuck in industrial-era functions like custodial care and obedience rather than true learning.
- He claims this model is bankrupt and prevents embracing imagination and 'not knowing' as core to learning.
Change One School At A Time
- Stephen Murgatroyd recommends transforming one school at a time by working with local leaders and communities.
- He suggests lighthouse effects will slowly influence wider system change rather than waiting for top-down reform.
Anticipation Builds Leadership Agency
- The guests teach anticipatory skills and agency to school leaders so they can shape futures rather than react to them.
- They view transformation as unknowable in advance but navigable through anticipatory practices.