There’s a surprise in the offing for John. Not that that’s a surprise to him. Nothing gets past old Sherlock Robins. Especially Producer Dave positioning a phone on a table at a very slight angle.

But said surprise leads to some incredible finds about Johnny JR which leave Elis and Dave’s jaws on the floor. This was not what had been intended. Elsewhere John has an out of body experience reflecting on the fact that there’s an entire segment on the show dedicated to his personal wins.

Plus, John enjoys an email that could not have been more in his wheelhouse if it tried. For anyone else it would have been useless and just tossed on the Wasteland.

The email: elisandjohn@bbc.co.uk The WhatsApp: 07974 293 022 The bonus content: The Bureau de Change of the Mind. Only on Bee Bee Cee Sounds every Saturday morning.

#467 - Chiles Miltree, Toddler Watson and King of the Nerds