Keep Talking Episode 147: Mark Clifford: Why Is China Afraid of Hong Kong’s Jimmy Lai?
Mar 21, 2025
54:35
Mark Clifford is president of the Committee for Freedom in Hong Kong and the author of "The Troublemaker: How Jimmy Lai Became a Billionaire, Hong Kong's Greatest Dissident, and China's Most Feared Critic."
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00:00 Intro
00:57 Mark's relationship with Jimmy Lai
06:40 Jimmy's journalism in Hong Kong
10:41 The source of Jimmy's devout anti-communism
18:27 Jimmy's interest in journalism
21:35 Was Jimmy optimistic about Hong Kong's future?
24:27 China's public enemy #1
33:22 Jimmy's core principles
39:40 Lessons from Jimmy's example
44:14 Hong Kong and JImmy's future
49:47 Jimmy's eccentricities and flaws