In this episode Perry Carpenter sits down with Rachel Tobac to debrief after her recent KB4-CON session, "How I'd Hack You Live" where she... well... hacked Perry live. Perry and Rachel explore how age-old deception techniques are being revamped for the digital age. The discussion spans the future of social engineering, the increasing role of AI in security, and a few other fun bits.

Guest:

• Rachel Tobac (LinkedIn) (Twitter / X) (Website)

Books and References (Books are Amazon Associate Links and help support the show):

• KB4-CON 2024 Main Stage Sessions (Registration required)
• Deepfake scammer walks off with $25 million in first-of-its-kind AI heist, Ars Technica
• The Social Engineer's Playbook: A Practical Guide to Pretexting, by Jeremiah Talamantes
• The Art of Deception: Controlling the Human Element of Security, by Kevin Mitnick
• YouTube video: 60 minutes Here’s how I used AI to clone a 60 Minutes correspondent’s voice to trick a colleague
• YouTube video: It Was Easy to Hack a Billionaire
• YouTube video: Inside the Mind of an Ethical Hacker

Perry's Books (Amazon Associate Links)

• Transformational Security Awareness: What Neuroscientists, Storytellers, and Marketers Can Teach Us About Driving Secure Behaviors, by Perry Carpenter
• The Security Culture Playbook: An Executive Guide To Reducing Risk and Developing Your Human Defense Layer by Perry Carpenter & Kai Roer

Production Credits:

Music and Sound Effects by Blue Dot Sessions, Envato Elements, & Storyblocks.

Artwork by Chris Machowski @ https://www.RansomWear.net/ and Mia Rune @ https://www.MiaRune.com.

8th Layer Insights theme music composed and performed by Marcos Moscat @ https://www.GameMusicTown.com/

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• LinkedIn
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• Instagram
• Email: perry [at] 8thLayerMedia [dot] com

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