Tokenization expert: "This is why we have to be excited about blockchain, whether you're a maxi or not"

In this conversation, Pascal Hugli and Rolf Kubli discusses the concept of Real World Assets (RWAs) and the implications of tokenization in capital markets. He critiques the term 'real world asset' as misleading and emphasizes the importance of understanding what is being tokenized. The discussion also touches on the role of institutions in the tokenization process and the potential for blockchain technology to enhance capital efficiency and collateralization in financial markets. Kubli highlights the ongoing developments in capital markets and the future of tokenization, particularly in relation to major players like BlackRock. In this conversation, the speakers delve into the complexities of blockchain technology, focusing on the distinctions between public and private environments, the importance of trust in financial systems, and the implications of tokenization for capital efficiency and liquidity. They discuss the role of deposit tokens and stablecoins, particularly in the context of Switzerland and developing economies, emphasizing the need for innovation in credit markets. The conversation highlights the challenges and opportunities presented by these technologies in reshaping financial landscapes.

Chapters:

00:53 Intro 
01:50 Understanding Real World Assets (RWAs) and Tokenization
12:06 The Role of Institutions in Tokenization
24:00 Capital Markets and the Future of Tokenization
25:51 Exploring Public vs. Private Blockchain Environments
30:04 The Role of Trust in Financial Systems
32:45 Capital Efficiency and Credit in Developing Economies
36:32 Understanding Tokenization and Liquidity
40:58 Deposit Tokens vs. Stablecoins
44:40 The Future of Credit Markets in Developing Economies
49:07 Switzerland's Position in Global Financial Innovation

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