If you’re married, or hope to be married, or have kids that may someday get married—today’s podcast is for you!

I’ve heard over and over again how amazing Gary Thomas is, and today’s the day we get to have him on Pardon the Mess. I can’t get over how much marriage wisdom is packed into our conversation, and here’s a few of the topics we covered:

Is the goal of marriage to be happy or holy
The misnomer of being in a “hard marriage”
What if I married the wrong person
Red flags and critical conversations to have with your kids about dating

I can’t wait for you to hear these important words from Gary about our marriages. And I’ll leave you with a great quote from the show: “A great marriage is not something you find, it’s something you make.”

Take a minute to listen to today’s show and then forward it to your spouse!

Resources from today's show:

All things Gary Thomas

The Long Road Home

Parent Prayer Challenge

Parent with Purpose - A Perfectly Imperfect Christian Parenting Digital Event

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