The Lawfare Podcast Lawfare Daily: Ideological Exclusions and Deportations with Julia Rose Kraut
Apr 24, 2025
Julia Rose Kraut, author of 'Threat of Dissent', explores the dark history of ideological exclusion and deportation in the U.S. as tools for political repression. She discusses the chilling impact these policies have on free speech and democracy, particularly during the Trump administration. The conversation highlights significant legal cases, including that of Mahmoud Khalil, and delves into how technology influences modern enforcement actions. Kraut emphasizes the need for awareness and action regarding these issues in contemporary society.
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Political Repression Through Immigration
- Ideological exclusion and deportation in the U.S. target foreigners based on political beliefs or associations.
- These tools have long been used for political repression under the guise of national security.
Fear and Chilling Effect
- The true impact of ideological exclusion law is fear and chilling free expression, not just deportation numbers.
- These policies undermine democratic values, freedom of speech, and U.S. global reputation.
Judicial Deference Limits Protections
- Courts mostly treat ideological exclusions as immigration issues, granting broad government discretion.
- This results in weak judicial scrutiny that does not align with First Amendment protections.
