I was thrilled to have this conversation about a book that's easily one of my favorites this year. The brilliant author, professor, and public theologian, Esau McCaulley is here to share his personal experience with the many faces of trauma and how he stayed connected to the goodness of God through all of it.

Esau’s new book, How Far to the Promised Land, is a gripping, powerful story of one man’s journey of survival and hope. This conversation is packed with so much incredible insight all the way through to the end. Here’s what we cover:

1. Esau's early experiences with trauma (6:59)

2. How being a dad has been part of Esau’s healing (11:48)

3. Racial trauma (18:08)

4. How to integrate different parts of yourself (28:53)

5. Why we have to tell our stories (31:18)

6. Esau’s thoughts on forgiveness (40:35)

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