The Rich Roll Podcast

Bryan Fogel: 'The Dissident' Filmmaker On The Global Surveillance State

Jan 7, 2021
Bryan Fogel, an award-winning filmmaker celebrated for 'Icarus' and 'The Dissident,' discusses the shocking murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi and its implications on global surveillance and press freedom. He reflects on the dangers faced by dissidents under oppressive regimes and the ethical dilemmas filmmakers encounter while addressing such serious issues. Fogel shares insights on the art of impactful storytelling and the role of social media in mobilizing international dissent against tyranny, all while navigating the complexities of modern-day media.
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ANECDOTE

Oscar Campaign Stress

  • Brian Fogel discusses the stress of awards season, including navigating press and managing expectations.
  • He recounts a conversation with Joel Coen, who emphasized the rarity of winning an Oscar.
INSIGHT

Rodchenkov's Ongoing Plight

  • Gregory Rodchenkov, the Icarus whistleblower, remains in hiding and faces continued threats.
  • Russia's state-sponsored doping scandal continues to evolve, with data manipulation and continued denials.
INSIGHT

Power Dynamics and Global Response

  • Both Putin and MBS use a similar tactic of demonstrating power without explicitly claiming responsibility.
  • Their actions reveal an underestimation of potential global backlash.
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