The Lawfare Podcast Scaling Laws: Ethan Mollick: Navigating the Uncertainty of AI Development
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Jul 10, 2025 
Ethan Mollick, a Professor of Management and author of the “One Useful Thing” Substack, joins Kevin Frazier and Alan Rozenshtein to delve into the dynamics of AI adoption. They explore AI’s potential in education, highlighting the ethical challenges and the importance of maintaining human interaction in assessments. The conversation also covers the critical issues of data privacy and the need for responsive regulations, as well as the role of AI in enhancing efficiency across various sectors like medicine and law.
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Key AI Scaling Laws
- Two key scaling laws improve AI: larger models and longer 'thinking' time during inference.
- These laws suggest significant room remains for AI improvement without hitting a slowdown soon.
Labs Confident in Current Scaling
- Multiple scaling laws and algorithmic improvements offer many routes to enhance AI.
- Labs believe current scaling approaches can lead directly to AGI, not merely marketing hype.
Focus on AI Interfaces
- Improve AI adoption by building better product interfaces beyond chatbots.
- Prioritize integrating AI smoothly into workflows to unlock its full potential.