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The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens

The Mordor Economy | Frankly #23

Jan 27, 2023
12:33

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Quick takeaways

  • The Mordor Economy envisions a future where humans allocate 50% of energy towards obtaining energy and the other 50% towards remediation of environmental damages caused by energy use.
  • Declining net energy leads to an increasing allocation of resources towards procuring energy, resulting in a decline in total net energy and a greater focus on addressing environmental impacts, potentially leading to a simplified society.

Deep dives

The Mordeaux Economy and Energy Dissipation

The podcast discusses the concept of a Mordeaux economy, wherein humans would spend 50% of energy on obtaining energy and the other 50% on remediating environmental damages caused by energy use. Although this cannot be achieved due to the need for food and shelter, the speaker explains the logic of how we could head in that direction. They highlight the maximum power principle in nature, where organisms self-organize to better degrade energy gradients. They also note the correlation between energy and GDP, with increasing GDP leading to the doubling of energy and materials every 30 years. This discussion raises concerns about the sustainability of our civilization's energy dissipating structure and the need for environmental remediation.

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