We explore the fight between democracy and autocracy for the future of the internet. We’re joined by Jacob Helberg, author of The Wires of War. We cover the definition of autocracy, watershed moments in geopolitics, and how the physical infrastructure of the internet can be manipulated.

“We have to see the world for what it is, not as we wish it were.” – Jacob Helberg

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CHAPTERS

This episode is our definitive guide to the fight between democracy and autocracy for the future of the internet. In it we cover:

• 00:00:00 – Introduction
• 00:03:13 – Jacob's background and introduction to geopolitics
• 00:05:45 – Jacob's book, The Wires of War
• 00:08:16 – Defining autocracy
• 00:12:02 – Watershed moments in geopolitics
• 00:15:27 – The physical infrastructure of the internet, and how it can be manipulated
• 00:18:13 – China is a peer competitor
• 00:28:20 – The need for US proactivity with autocracies
• 00:36:52 – Cold war, gray war, and hot peace
• 00:40:02 – How the US should work to preserve democracy
• 00:48:12 – Optimism in geopolitics

ABOUT THE WIRES OF WAR

The Wires of War is all about the battle being waged that will determine the future of the internet, and in many ways, the future of global society. And it's a battle that's being waged both on the front and back end of the internet. On the front end, that's taking place in the apps we use every day, from Google to Facebook, to TikTok, to Twitter. On the back end, in the hardware, routers, protocols and even the undersea cables that travel hundreds of thousands of miles crisscrossing and connecting the entire world. The Wires of War is deeply compelling, expansive, and an incredibly detailed picture woven together of the world that we're in and what we face. 

The Wires of War is out now and available on amazon.com.

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