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Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast
225. COP28: The Snapshot vs The Movie
Dec 11, 2023
Nigel Topping and H.E. Razan Al Mubarak discuss COP28. They emphasize the importance of coalitions for climate action, implementation strategies, and the role of nature. Food systems and indigenous voices in negotiations are highlighted. The complexity of the COP process is addressed, along with optimism for the future.
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- The importance of ambitious coalitions formed by non-state actors and indigenous peoples to mobilize resources and implement specific climate actions.
- The significance of incorporating nature as a fundamental ally and the real economy's clarity on climate change solutions and goals, such as tripling renewable energy while prioritizing an inclusive economic transition.
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The Evolution of COPs and the Importance of the Action Agenda
The podcast episode discusses the evolution of COPs (Conference of Parties) and emphasizes the importance of looking beyond the negotiated outcome. The speaker, Nigel Topping, highlights the role of the action agenda, which involves various non-state actors, businesses, finance, civil society, and indigenous peoples, forming ambitious coalitions. These coalitions aim to mobilize resources and implement specific actions, such as restoring mangroves and mobilizing billions of dollars to address climate change. Topping recognizes that while the process is not perfect, it has become more collaborative, specific, and mobilizes more resources than ever before.
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