The Tim Ferriss Show

#440: Rick Doblin — The Psychedelic Domino That Tips All Others

Jun 12, 2020
Rick Doblin, the founder of MAPS, shares his deep insights into the therapeutic potential of psychedelics, particularly MDMA. He recounts the history of MDMA from a therapeutic tool to its criminalization. The conversation highlights how MDMA aids in PTSD treatment by facilitating emotional processing and reducing fear responses. Doblin underscores the need for policy reform and discusses ongoing fundraising efforts to advance MDMA-assisted psychotherapy. He even reveals a significant $10 million funding challenge to boost psychedelic research.
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ANECDOTE

MAPS Origin Story

  • Rick Doblin founded MAPS in 1986 to bring back MDMA as a legal therapeutic drug through FDA approval.
  • Initially, he tried using legal means to prevent MDMA criminalization, but after failing, he realized scientific research was the only way.
INSIGHT

MDMA for PTSD

  • MDMA-assisted psychotherapy has shown remarkable results in treating chronic, treatment-resistant PTSD, with a significant percentage of participants no longer qualifying for PTSD after treatment.
  • This is notable given the short duration of treatment (2-3 sessions) compared to the long duration of suffering (average 17.8 years).
INSIGHT

MDMA's Properties and History

  • MDMA is chemically between methamphetamine and mescaline, giving it both energizing and psychedelic properties.
  • Sasha Shulgin rediscovered its therapeutic potential, leading to its use in couples therapy and for personal growth.
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