Song Camp 2: Electric Boogaloo! (with Alex Tumay, Wolftyla, Nicholas Petricca, Grace VanderWaal)
Aug 11, 2023
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In this podcast, producer/engineer Alex Tumay, topliner Wolftyla, songwriter Nicholas Petricca, and artist Grace VanderWaal break down the different roles in a songwriting session. They discuss the importance of creating a safe space for collaboration, the role of the performer in a songwriting session, and finding the right collaborators. They also emphasize the importance of authenticity, playfulness, and switching up the energy in music creation.
Being prepared and adaptable as a producer/engineer is crucial for creating a comfortable and collaborative environment.
The top line in a song is what people remember, so creating catchy hooks and maintaining a safe and supportive space is essential for collaboration and vulnerability in music creation.
Deep dives
The importance of preparation in a songwriting session
In a songwriting session, being prepared is crucial. This was emphasized by Alex Tume, a New York-based engineer and producer, who shared his experience of always coming prepared with different microphone setups, even if they weren't initially requested. He highlighted the importance of knowing the artist you're working with and being ready to adapt to their preferences. Alex also discussed the role of a producer/engineer as a fly on the wall, reading the room and creating a comfortable environment for everyone to collaborate and make something cool happen.
The significance of the top line in songwriting
Wolf Tyler, a top liner and singer-songwriter, emphasized the importance of the top line in a song. She mentioned that the top line is what people dance to and remember. Starting with melodies, Wolf shared her process of creating catchy hooks and how she knows when she has a great top line. She also talked about the need for honesty, support, and a safe space when collaborating, as creating music is a vulnerable process.
The role of curiosity and being present in a session
Nicholas Petricca, frontman of the band Walk the Moon and a songwriter, stressed the significance of curiosity and being present in a songwriting session. He discussed the importance of creating a fun and open environment and the role of being in service to the song and the artists involved. Nicholas shared his approach of being open to what's alive in the room and utilizing curiosity to explore and find new ideas. He also highlighted the value of zooming out from specific details and taking breaks to switch up the energy.
Creating a fun and safe environment as a performer
Grace Vander Waal, a singer-songwriter who gained fame after winning America's Got Talent, shared her experience of being in songwriting sessions from a young age. She emphasized the need to have fun, become friends with collaborators, and stay true to your identity as an artist. Grace talked about the importance of letting go of ideas that aren't working and playing around to discover new possibilities. She also mentioned the responsibility of performers to set a positive vibe in the room and create a safe space for expression.
Part two of the secret world of song camps looks at the different roles in a songwriting session. There are producers who sit behind a console desk or computer and record, arrange and craft the instrumental and track the vocal. Often they double as engineers who use their technical knowledge to select mics, set up signal chains, and ensure the best recording. Then there is the topliner, a singer who generates melodies on the fly, throwing ideas at the instrumental, looking for the best hooks. Often the top liner is also a songwriter who crafts chords and lyrics to fit the topline melody. And then there is of course the artist who performs the piece.
These roles aren’t always clearly divided - most musicians have multiple skills. But for the sake of understanding how each role is essential to creating a song, we asked four musical luminaries to embody one of these roles and break it down: producer/engineer Alex Tumay, topliner Wolftyla, Songwriter and Walk the Moon frontman Nicholas Petricca and Artist Grace VanderWall.
This conversation happened live at the College of Performing Arts at The New School as part of Anti Social Camp 2023, the largest song camp in the world that is working to revive to the NYC songwriting scene.