The AI in Business Podcast

De-Identified Data and AI Adoption in Healthcare - with Ben Webster of NLP Logix

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Mar 26, 2025
Ben Webster, VP of AI Solutions at NLP Logix, dives into the intricate world of de-identifying patient data for healthcare AI applications. He discusses the increasing reliance of hospitals on first-party data to ensure compliance while harnessing AI's analytical strength. The conversation highlights the cost and scalability challenges of proper de-identification and the legal complexities involved. Ben also emphasizes the importance of organizational readiness for change and the need for healthcare leaders to foster a culture that embraces AI integration.
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ADVICE

De-identification Strategy

  • De-identifying data for each use case is costly and time-consuming, hindering experimentation.
  • Create a de-identified data asset for all expected use cases to improve cost-effectiveness and speed up R&D.
INSIGHT

De-identification Methods

  • De-identification can be achieved through safe harbor (removing 18 identifiers) or expert determination.
  • Expert determination is sometimes necessary when safe harbor makes data less valuable or is impractical.
ANECDOTE

R&D Delays

  • R&D projects can be delayed for months waiting for legal approval to use potentially sensitive data.
  • This delay can kill projects by preventing timely experimentation, especially when hitting public APIs.
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