What does it really mean to be a “healthy sinner?” In this eye-opening interview, counselor and author Leslie Vernick helps us unpack the difference between normal struggles and destructive patterns of abuse. Through powerful stories—including a surprising moment in a dressing room and her unforgettable “termites in the basement” analogy—Leslie gives us a fresh perspective on what health and unhealth look like in relationships.

We explore how to recognize abuse, when it’s time to seek help or get out, and what it looks like to pursue emotional, spiritual, and relational wholeness as a follower of Christ. This episode is a lifeline for anyone who feels stuck in an unhealthy relationship and wants clarity, courage, and hope.

You can find more of Leslie's resources at https://leslievernick.com.

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The Living Truth Podcast; Conversations that shed light on the deeper issues that unlock healing from porn addiction, sex addiction, and sexual betrayal.

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