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Do Good To Lead Well with Craig Dowden

Reconstructing Inclusion: Building Sustainable and Inclusive Organizations with Amri Johnson

Apr 3, 2025
56:17

Discover how to revolutionize your organization by embedding inclusion into its very DNA. Explore the foundations of Amri's groundbreaking book, "Reconstructing Inclusion," which challenges the norms of traditional DEI approaches. Through his experiences at Novartis, Amri shares how organizations can cultivate environments where everyone thrives by aligning skills and capabilities with their purpose.


Addressing the elephant in the room, we tackle the current backlash against DEI efforts and explore the concept of anti-fragility. Learn how creating spaces for civil dialogue and fostering cognitive diversity can combat ideological resistance and enhance productivity. Amri also highlights how focusing on agency and prevention versus (over)reaction leads to a more sustainable and inclusive organizational culture.


We close the conversation unpacking the nuances of cultural intelligence and relational fitness, vital tools for navigating the complexities of building inclusive environments for all. Join us for this transformative conversation where you will walk away with actionable strategies to foster growth, collaboration, and inclusivity in your organization.


What You’ll Learn

- How to build sustainable and inclusive organizations.

- A challenge to traditional DEI frameworks.

- An introduction to the COST model—Care, Openness, Safety, and Trust.

- Ways to create vibrant, thriving work environments that inspire and empower everyone.


Podcast Timestamps

(00:00) - Creating Inclusive and Generative Organizations

(10:27) - Navigating DEI Backlash and Anti-Fragility

(23:02) - Creating Inclusive Organizations

(28:20) - Embracing Inclusion Beyond Surface Identities

(41:51) - Navigating Cultural Intelligence for Inclusion

(47:46) - Sustainable Inclusion Practices in Organizations


KEYWORDS

Positive Leadership, Inclusive Organizations, Social Capitalism, Inclusion Strategy, DEI Frameworks, Sustainable Practices, Anti-Fragility, Cognitive Diversity, Respectful Dialogue, Cultural Intelligence, Relational Fitness, Inclusive Leadership, Collaborative Growth, Mutual Understanding, CEO Success

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