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Pulse Check: Multifamily Momentum, Debt Funds Rising, Q3 Moves

Nov 4, 2025

The hosts delve into their latest investments and strategies, discussing a shift towards debt funds and the importance of transparency in deals. Jim shares insights on new allocations in healthcare and coffee, while Paul outlines a promising Indiana multifamily turnaround. They emphasize the need for thorough checks on fee structures and the significance of using investing clubs to vet new managers. Red flags in hotel conversions are dissected, highlighting potential pitfalls like phantom equity and misaligned waterfalls. It's a vital guide for savvy investors.

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Use Investing Clubs To Lower Minimums

Use investing clubs to access deals with high minimums and diversify risk among members.
Ask sponsors to lower minimums and request the reduced terms be extended to your community.

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Prefer Simple Cashflow Multifamily Plays

Prioritize cashflow plays in stable secondary markets when seeking predictable returns.
Target multi-year average cash-on-cash and IRR metrics and vet partner track records first.

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Rebalance Toward Debt And Account For Taxes

Rebalance toward a mix of equity and debt deliberately and set a target allocation (e.g., 50/50).
Prioritize placing debt funds into retirement accounts to avoid ordinary income tax drag.

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The Passive Pockets Pulse Check returns with Chris Lopez, Jim Pfeifer, and Paul Shannon. They break down what they bought and what they skipped, how they are reallocating between equity and debt, and the checks they run before wiring capital. Jim shares two new allocations in healthcare and coffee after negotiating a lower minimum for the community and explains invoking the Shirky rule to avoid doubling up with a new operator too quickly. Paul outlines a simple Indiana cash flow deal, a 22-unit JV turnaround, and an LP win with a partial disposition. Chris walks through a shift toward debt funds, a strong payout month, and a cautionary development story that highlights why transparency, lender diligence, and sponsor communication matter. The trio then uses the PassivePockets Deal Analyzer to spot red flags and assess IRR partitioning before deconstructing a friends and family hotel conversion with fee bloat, phantom equity, and misaligned waterfalls so you know when to pass fast.

Key Takeaways

Use investing clubs to test new managers or asset classes and always ask about minimums
Rebalance deliberately toward a mix of equity and debt while accounting for ordinary income taxes on debt yields outside retirement accounts
Multifamily is stabilizing in select markets, but underwrite with longer debt terms, larger reserves, and realistic rent and occupancy assumptions
Watch for fee-heavy structures, annual-only distributions, deferred development fees counted as equity, and dual waterfalls that dilute LP returns
The Deal Analyzer surfaces out-of-range assumptions and IRR partitioning shows how much return comes from operations versus exit

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