The Lawfare Podcast Lawfare Daily: Ukraine-Russia Negotiations with Eric Ciaramella and Samuel Charap
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Jun 27, 2025 
In this discussion, Eric Ciaramella, a Senior Fellow at the Carnegie Endowment, and Samuel Charap, a Senior Political Scientist at Rand Corporation, dive into the Ukraine-Russia negotiations. They explore the hurdles of achieving peace amid competing national interests. The potential for a negotiated settlement is debated, alongside security arrangements to deter future aggression. The complexities of neutrality for Ukraine and the impact of NATO aspirations also feature prominently, along with the critical need for holding Russia accountable for its actions.
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Complex Russian War Aims
- Russian war aims combine ideological, imperial, and longstanding strategic objectives.
- These mixed motivations complicate predicting their negotiation flexibility.
Diverging U.S.-Ukraine Priorities
- U.S. interest in Ukraine has shifted, with current administration prioritizing Ukraine less.
- Past administrations devoted more resources aligning closely with Ukrainian security goals.
Limits of War Ripeness Concept
- War ripeness and mutually hurting stalemate are hard to identify and often only recognized retrospectively.
- Russian optimism that the war will improve incentivizes them to continue fighting.