When sex between two humans can be many things, how do we define bestiality - that is, sex between a human and a non-human?

Especially when the farming industry relies on certain sex acts on animals - or ‘animal husbandry’ to use the correct term - to function.

These are an uncomfortable but important question, and we’re joined by academic Joanne Bourke, author of Loving Animals: On Bestiality, Zoophilia and Post-Human Love, to discuss these topics and more.

This podcast was edited and produced by Stuart Beckwith. The senior producer is Charlotte Long.

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