The UpFlip Podcast

209. Here are Recession Proof Small Business Ideas

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Oct 20, 2025
Giuseppe Grammatico, a former JP Morgan employee, now thrives as a multi-unit franchise owner and coach. He shares his journey from corporate life to franchising, emphasizing the importance of time freedom over a high salary. Giuseppe discusses identifying recession-resistant franchises, highlighting areas like water and smoke mitigation. He reveals crucial metrics for evaluating franchises and stresses the significance of having a strong 'why' to guide entrepreneurial success. He also offers valuable insights on overcoming challenges in business.
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ANECDOTE

Leaving Wall Street For Family Time

  • Giuseppe left a six-figure JP Morgan job because a five-hour daily commute robbed family time and joy.
  • He researched franchises, found one he ran for 13 years, and became a franchise coach after selling it in 2020.
ADVICE

Pick Recession-Resistant Models

  • Prioritize recession-resistant franchises like expense reduction, water and smoke mitigation, and essential B2B services.
  • Choose businesses with small staff needs, fast setup, and steady demand during downturns.
ADVICE

Estimate Real Startup Ranges

  • Expect low-staff coaching or expense-reduction franchises under roughly $100K and equipment-based restoration in the $200K–$300K range.
  • Use SBA loans with 20–30% down to finance many franchise starts.
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