How do we talk about metamodern spirituality, especially when traditional religious terminology is so fraught with baggage from the past? Do we rename our terms, or reclaim them? In this conversation with Brendan Graham Dempsey, Layman Pascal defends the reclamation of religious language, offering his own definitions of words like "God," "spirit," "heaven and hell," and more. With this reformulation of familiar ideas, we can glimpse a vital and viable framework for a truly metamodern spirituality, one that retains its connection to the traditions of our ancestors and their age-old explorations of matters of ultimate concern.

0:00 Introduction

3:30 Defending Conservation: The Right in the Right/Left Polarity of Metamodern Spirituality

5:24 Redefining: "Spirituality"

7:36 "Spirit"

8:51 "Numinous"

12:10 "God"

26:38 "Telos," the "Will of God," and "Sin"

34:31 (On Mingling Symbol Sets)

38:35 "Sacred Geometry"

46:05 "Religion"

54:35 "Myth," "Pantheon," and "Divinities/gods"

1:17:44 "Heaven" and "Hell"

1:21:09 "Afterlife," nihilistic vs. life-affirming Transcendence

1:32:23 Meta-Praxis or Meta-Narrative? The Primacy of Experience over Theory

1:42:52 Navigating Different Terminological Contexts

1:51:33 Spiritual Timidity vs. Spiritual Trauma 

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