
Can't Stop the Growth CSTG 236: Zone of Genius with Andrew Hasty
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Oct 28, 2025 In this enlightening discussion, Andrew Hastie, COO at Peterman Brothers and an expert in education and leadership development, explores the transformative concept of the 'zone of genius.' He breaks down Gay Hendricks' four zones: incompetence, competence, excellence, and genius, emphasizing how leaders must first identify their own strengths. Andrew challenges listeners to reflect on energizing tasks versus draining ones and provides practical strategies to reshape roles for greater fulfillment, ultimately inspiring teams to discover their own genius.
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Flow Is Energy, Not Constant Joy
- Flow at work feels like losing track of time and heightened energy rather than constant pleasure.
- Great leaders must first find their own zone of genius to help others find theirs.
Scuba Diving Illustrates Deep Flow
- Andrew compares flow to scuba diving where you monitor depth but lose sense of time.
- He uses diving to explain how engrossing flow can be outside typical workplace examples.
Four Zones And The Upper Limits Problem
- Gay Hendricks defines four zones: incompetence, competence, excellence, and genius.
- A fear-based 'upper limits problem' often blocks movement from excellence into genius.


