
CyberWire Daily Season finale: Leading security in a brave new world. [CISOP]
Dec 30, 2025
In the finale, guest Kim Jones, an experienced cybersecurity leader and former CISO, shares insights on navigating the complexities of today's tech landscape. They discuss the pitfalls of uncritical AI adoption and the importance of governance in managing shadow AI. Kim highlights the distinctions between the immediate effects of AI and the long-term threats posed by quantum computing. He emphasizes the need for CISOs to uphold professional ethics amidst rapid tech changes and advocates for education and critical thinking to close workforce skill gaps.
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Rushed AI Adoption Creates Hidden Risks
- Rapid AI adoption is creating blind spots as organizations rush to implement without fully assessing risks.
- Kim Jones warns that trusting AI and feeding it uncontrolled data risks data poisoning and larger future failures.
Evangelists Can Leave Operators With The Mess
- Kim Jones recounts working with Tony Goda, an evangelist whose ideas required operators to implement them.
- She warns evangelists sometimes leave others to clean up the messy operational fallout.
Set Guardrails Before Deploying AI
- Define desired outcomes and acceptable risk before deploying AI and build governance and guardrails accordingly.
- Kim Jones recommends educating stakeholders and enforcing controls rather than blindly adopting AI features.

