How About Tomorrow?

What Does “Full Stack” Mean? w/ Taylor Otwell and Ryan Florence

May 27, 2024

Taylor Otwell and Ryan Florence discuss the definition of 'full stack' development, the differences between Laravel and Rails, the divide between frontend and backend teams, the lack of a real JavaScript community, and the potential of JavaScript frameworks to be the fullest stack. They also touch on what Taylor would like to see from the Remix community and humorously compare Laravel to Canada.

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The podcast debates the evolving definition of 'full stack' in JavaScript, highlighting the varied perspectives on its true meaning and significance.

Infrastructure choices like AWS or Cloudflare heavily influence backend development practices in JavaScript, impacting developers' decisions and approaches to coding.

React and Remix streamline backend development by simplifying the execution of code on both server and client sides, enhancing user experiences and bridging the gap between PHP and JavaScript templates effectively.

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The Evolution of Full Stack Definition in JavaScript

The podcast delves into the evolving concept of full stack development in JavaScript frameworks. It discusses the different perspectives on what 'full stack' truly means, especially focusing on frameworks like Rails and Laravel. The conversation highlights how the definition of full stack has shifted in the JavaScript community towards the ability to run code on both server and client sides.

Inertia.js for Seamless Frontend and Backend Integration in Laravel

03:38

Choosing JavaScript for Backend Development

04:23

Introduction

2min

Exploring the Evolution of 'Full Stack' Development

3min

Exploring the Relationship Between Remix App and Larval Frameworks

3min

Exploring Laravel and Rails Ecosystems in Startup Development

15min

Evolution of Backend Systems in Web Development

27min

Navigating Frontend and Backend Integration

19min

Insights on the JavaScript Community and Full Stack Development

2min

Taylor Otwell and Ryan Florence join us to talk about whether "full stack" is a term worth using in 2024, how Laravel differs from Rails, why there isn't a real JavaScript community, what Taylor would like to see from the Remix community, and whether Laravel is like Canada.

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Topics:

(00:00) - Filthy JavaScript developers
(00:30) - What does full stack mean?
(10:46) - How Laravel different from Rails?
(16:17) - Is the frontend and backend team divide real?
(18:47) - Why isn't there a JavaScript community?
(36:32) - Are JavaScript frameworks in the best position to be the fullest stack?
(46:18) - What about Blitz.js?
(49:34) - What would Tayor like to see from the Remix community?
(54:41) - Is Rails worse than building an app with Cloudflare?
(56:38) - Is the top of funnel for web development JavaScript?
(01:07:17) - Is Laravel like Canada?

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How About Tomorrow?

What Does “Full Stack” Mean? w/ Taylor Otwell and Ryan Florence

Episode guests

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The Evolution of Full Stack Definition in JavaScript

Infrastructure's Impact on Backend Development in JavaScript

Dissolving Network Friction with React and Remix

Evolution of Backend Functionality in React Ecosystem

Challenges and Advancements in JavaScript Development

Inertia.js for Seamless Frontend and Backend Integration in Laravel

Choosing JavaScript for Backend Development

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The Evolution of Full Stack Definition in JavaScript

Infrastructure's Impact on Backend Development in JavaScript

Dissolving Network Friction with React and Remix

Evolution of Backend Functionality in React Ecosystem

Challenges and Advancements in JavaScript Development

Inertia.js for Seamless Frontend and Backend Integration in Laravel

Choosing JavaScript for Backend Development

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