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37. Chris Hipkins, New Zealand PM: Working with Xi Jinping, fighting to stay in power, and zero covid's double-edged sword
Sep 24, 2023
New Zealand's Prime Minister Chris Hipkins discusses the effective Covid-19 response, relationships with various countries, free speech, upbringing, work-life balance in politics, and a memorable gaff during the pandemic.
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- Transitioning into the role of Prime Minister requires reflection, tough decision-making, and inner resilience.
- New Zealand's successful COVID-19 response included a shift from flattening the curve to elimination and required significant leadership and immediate decision-making.
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The Challenges of the Campaign and Post-COVID-19 Politics
The Prime Minister discusses the current election campaign and the unique challenges it presents. He reflects on the psychology of campaigning and how it differs when facing momentum versus an uphill struggle. He also highlights the post-COVID-19 hangover that many countries, including New Zealand, are experiencing, and the impact it has on the campaign. He emphasizes the importance of staying focused on one's values as a politician and accepting the factors outside of one's control in politics.
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