
The Trajectory Craig Mundie - Co-Evolution with AI: Industry First, Regulators Later (AGI Governance, Episode 8)
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Sep 5, 2025 Craig Mundie, former Chief Research and Strategy Officer at Microsoft, dives into the evolving world of AI and its governance. He discusses how bottom-up governance could arise from commercial pressures, emphasizing international collaboration over regulatory constraints. Mundie advocates for a symbiotic relationship between humans and AI, asserting that proactive governance is vital for the future. He also explores emotional reactions to AGI, comparing them to stages of grief, and promotes an optimistic view of co-evolution in shaping a safe and innovative technological landscape.
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Plug Fests As A Governance Model
- Mundie recalls 'plug fests' as a model where engineers tested interoperability in person and fixed issues iteratively.
- He asks what the AI analog of those collaborative debugging events should be.
Competition Coexists With Shared Incentives
- Strategic competition won't vanish, but competitors still share interests like market access and interoperability.
- Mundie argues those shared commercial incentives can catalyze cooperation even amid geopolitical rivalry.
Use Enterprise Demand To Force Alignment
- Build enterprise demand for multi-platform apps to force common control and monitoring practices.
- Use enterprise customers' need for interoperability and trust as the market signal that aligns vendors.






