In this episode of the Working Well Beings podcast, host Matt Smeed speaks with Nicola Hogan, the global psychosocial safety and wellbeing lead at Fonterra. They discuss the complexities of psychosocial safety in the workplace, the importance of legislation, and the business case for prioritizing employee wellbeing. Nicola shares her career journey from teaching to wellbeing leadership and emphasizes the need for compassion in effective leadership. Nicola discusses the importance of engagement and responsibility in leadership, the evolving structure of wellbeing teams, and the future of wellbeing roles within organizations. She emphasizes the need for dedicated wellbeing leadership while acknowledging the complexities of psychosocial risk assessments and the necessity of building relationships within organizations. The discussion also touches on the challenges of implementing effective wellbeing strategies and the importance of self-care for those in wellbeing roles.