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The Mark Divine Show

Brian Johnson: Creating a Hero’s Journey

Dec 7, 2021
Brian Johnson, creator of Optimize and the Founder + CEO of Heroic, joins Commander Divine to discuss creating heroic technology for a virtuous world. They explore the challenges between hedonistic happiness and true fulfillment, the importance of courage in a hero's journey, and the role of technology in empowering users to lead disciplined, focused lives. The chapter also touches on Brian's background, the negative effects of a culture of comfort, and the upcoming launch of the Heroic app and social platform.
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Quick takeaways

  • Follow your bliss and embrace challenges on your path to personal growth and transformation.
  • Heroes are created through the practice of showing up and choosing to act with love and courage.

Deep dives

The Birth of Heroic: A Call for Change

The podcast episode explores how the speaker had an awakening and felt a deep desire to create a more noble and virtuous world, especially for his children. This led to the birth of Heroic, a social training platform aimed at providing an alternative to the negative impact of the attention economy. The speaker shares his ambition to train heroes through personal transformation, leading to massive social change. The creation of Heroic also involved a record-breaking crowdfunding campaign, raising $11 million in a short period of time.

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