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In this podcast episode, the guest Eduardo Brissenio discusses the concept of the performance paradox, which highlights the counterintuitive reality that focusing solely on performance can hinder our ability to actually improve. He explains that there are two types of effort: effort to perform and effort to improve. While both are important, many of us are stuck in chronic performance, constantly striving for perfection and minimizing mistakes. The key to achieving high performance lies in balancing time spent in the performance zone and the learning zone. The learning zone, where curiosity, experimentation, and growth mindset thrive, is crucial for improving and achieving long-lasting success. Eduardo emphasizes that having a growth mindset, believing in one's ability to change and develop, is necessary but not sufficient. It is equally important to know how to improve and what learning strategies to apply. Building a culture of learning and embedding learning habits into our daily routines can help overcome the performance paradox. Eduardo also discusses the benefits of asymmetrical modeling, where leaders adapt their behaviors to encourage others to challenge and contribute diverse perspectives. He advises individuals and leaders to set intentions for improvement, reflect on progress, and start conversations with teammates to collectively foster a culture of learning and growth.