Exploring the factors influencing bond market movements, historic parallels to the 1987 crash, stock-bond correlations and diversification, the stability of inflation expectations, and the value of bond yields and macroeconomics.
The recent dynamics in fixed income markets include a reversal of the rise in US 10-year yields and the potential impact of tightening policies at the long end of the curve.
Bonds may no longer be a reliable diversifier due to changing risk preferences, issues related to bank portfolios and foreign reserve managers reducing treasury holdings, and the potential influence of mutual fund year-end portfolio adjustments on reducing bond holdings.
Deep dives
Bond market fluctuations and reversal of trends
The podcast discusses recent market events that have impacted bond markets, including the rise in US 10-year yields due to higher oil prices and the Federal Reserve's messaging on policy rates. However, there has been a reversal of this trend as some Fed officials talk about tightening policies at the long end of the curve. The podcast also touches on the recent events in Israel and the potential knock-on effects. Overall, the podcast explores whether this reversal is just a retracement or if it is indicative of a time to buy bonds more aggressively.
Factors contributing to the bond market movement
The podcast highlights several factors contributing to the recent movement in bond markets. These include the notion that bonds may no longer be a reliable diversifier due to changing risk preferences, issues related to bank portfolios and foreign reserve managers potentially reducing their treasury holdings, the impact of fiscal dynamics and the debt ceiling issuance, and the buying behavior of asset managers. Additionally, the podcast discusses the potential influence of mutual fund year-end portfolio adjustments on reducing bond holdings.
Correlations between stock and bond markets and the outlook for bonds
The podcast delves into the correlation between stock and bond markets and its historical shifts. It notes that in the past, higher inflation tends to result in positive correlation, while inflation below three percent typically leads to bonds working well as a risk-off diversifier. The guest in the podcast believes that policy is currently restrictive and that the end of the Federal Reserve's hiking cycle tends to favor bonds. However, uncertainties remain, including potential re-acceleration of inflation and the behavior of momentum players and hedge funds. Nonetheless, the guest's outlook leans towards buying bonds, considering the prevailing conditions.
It's been another rough year for bond markets, but the makings of a recovery are starting to appear. Inflation is cooling, monetary policymakers do not sound too worried about the effects of recent oil price rises and the impact of horrific and consequential geopolitical events is a reminder of the safe haven qualities many bonds have. Fred Goodwin is back to discuss the recent dynamics in fixed income markets, whether the diversification properties of bonds will ever be as good as they once were and whether this is, in fact, a good time to buy bonds.