Louie Schwartzberg, visionary director of Fantastic Fungi, dives into the connection between psychedelics and mindfulness with Jack Kornfield. They discuss psychedelics as a gateway to wonder, the intersection of art and science, therapeutic uses of psilocybin mushrooms, and the importance of sacred attention in finding beauty in nature.
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Psychedelics and Spirituality
Many Buddhist teachers in Jack Kornfield's generation started with psychedelics.
They used psychedelics as a gateway to connect with the sacred.
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Louie's First Trip
Louie Schwartzberg's first psychedelic trip, in nature, revealed that everything is energy.
This revelation influenced his filmmaking, focusing on making the invisible visible.
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Expanding Perception
We are surrounded by unseen energies beyond the visible light spectrum.
Expanding our perception, like through psychedelics or mindfulness, is crucial.
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Fantastic Fungi's visionary director, Louie Schwartzberg, joins Jack to explore the profound connection between psychedelics and mindfulness.
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“You can’t separate psychedelics from life.” – Jack Kornfield
In this fresh conversation, Jack and Louie spelunk the depths of:
The connection between psychedelics and spirituality
Psychedelics as a gateway to wonder, curiosity, and the sacred
How tripping on psychedelics informed Louie’s filmmaking
Albert Einstein and psychedelics as the intersection between art and science
The universe and life as a constant transformation of light energy
Buddha’s “Flower Sermon” and Zen Master Suzuki Roshi’s “Beginner’s Mind”
Jack “exchanging maps” with famous LSD researcher, Stanislav Grof
Studies showing the combination of psilocybin mushrooms and Louie’s time-lapse nature imagery as a powerful therapeutic tool for helping addiction and PTSD
The importance of “set and setting,” community, and integration
How psychedelics actually fit into the Buddhist precepts
Honoring biology and the feminine aspects of nature
The gifts of sacred attention and loving awareness
Finding beauty wherever you are, and how Louie’s films heal by sharing patterns of nature for the soul to connect with
This conversation was originally recorded on 3/29/24 by Banyan Together – an online mindfulness community started by Jack Kornfield and Tara Brach. To join the community and learn more, visit BanyanTogether.com
“A lot of the work I do is to make the invisible visible. And that’s the perfect description of what a psychedelic journey is like, making the invisible visible.” – Louie Schwartzberg
“We live in a culture that’s almost defined by the absence of the sacred. And so we feel this yearning, this intuitive wish to connect—whether it’s going high in the mountains, or making love, or taking psychedelics, or meditating.” – Jack Kornfield
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