The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast 117: Innovate or Become Invisible: Scott Clary on the Content Shift Reshaping Business
In Part Two of this high-impact conversation, Dwayne continues his deep dive with global business strategist and Success Story Podcast host Scott Clary, who breaks down exactly why attention is the foundational currency of modern business — and why companies that fail to adapt will be overtaken by those who move quickly with media, content, and AI.
Scott unpacks the psychology of why leaders resist content, the identity fear behind “not wanting to suck,” and how legacy businesses risk losing everything because they’re still marketing for 2005 while technology is sprinting into 2025.
Dwayne and Scott explore real-world examples—from lawn-care companies to B2B manufacturers to billion-dollar firms—and show how even the most “unsexy” industries can dominate simply by capturing attention and building trust at scale.
The conversation expands into AI disruption, the collapse of traditional SEO, the rise of generative search, modern buyer behavior, shortening sales cycles through content, and the undeniable compounding power of personal brand.
This episode is a wake-up call to business owners everywhere: adapt now, or be replaced by those who do.
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
00:00 – Media equals attention and attention drives every business outcome.
02:00 – The real starting point for content: sucking at first and learning through repetition.
04:30 – Scott unpacks why universal business principles apply to content creation.
06:00 – Identity, fear, and why business owners avoid content creation.
07:00 – The widening gap between tech adopters and those still resisting digital change.
09:00 – Legacy vs. legitimacy: content won’t damage your reputation, but irrelevance will.
11:00 – Content isn't just video - newsletters, audio, and niche education all count.
13:00 – Niche creators winning with “unsexy” businesses.
17:00 – Example content strategies.
20:00 – Why Scott studies fast-growing creators - not the biggest creators.
23:00 – The explosive business outcomes possible when you master content (“not a 1x or 2x”).
27:00 – Why even billion-dollar CEOs must build trust through media.
33:00 – How content accelerates B2B sales cycles and increases closing ratios.
37:00 – Generative search is replacing Google.
43:00 – Scott breaks down the KPI stack: retention, shares, watch time, and qualified leads.
48:00 – Essential tools: ChatGPT, Claude, Opus Pro, CapCut, etc., and what they’re best for.
50:00 – Hiring global talent.
56:00 – The coming AI household-assistant revolution.
01:02:00 – SEO collapse and the rise of creator-driven education and media networks.
01:08:00 – Entrepreneurs have already done hard things - this is simply the next one.
01:10:00 – Passion is the outcome of mastery, not the prerequisite.
01:11:00 – How older leaders can partner with younger digital natives.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
- Attention is the gateway to trust, and trust drives every buying decision.
- Content doesn’t mean dancing online; it means choosing a medium you can stick with.
- AI and generative search are rewriting SEO overnight.
- Content massively increases sales velocity and close rates.
- Small businesses have the most to gain from adopting a media strategy.
- Entrepreneurship is staying alive long enough for your strategy to work.
QUOTES:
"Media is attention. From the beginning of time, attention and influence is what drives people to make decisions." - Scott Clary
" Entrepreneurship is a game of staying alive as long as possible until it works." - Scott Clary
" I've always found that like you, you become passionate through mastery, through success, through figuring things out." - Scott Clary
" People tie their identity to their business and if they try to go and do content and it sucks, it's a reflection that they suck and they don't want to put themselves out there." - Dwayne Kerrigan
" I believe that people shift through the power of story. I think it's the greatest way for us to learn because it allows us to put ourselves into other people's shoes." - Dwayne Kerrigan
RESOURCES MENTIONED
- ChatGPT (OpenAI) – ideation, scripting, research assistance.
- Claude (Anthropic) – content development and refinement.
- Opus Pro – turns long-form video into short-form clips.
- CapCut – simple editing tool for social video.
- Substack – newsletters and niche written content.
- Beehiiv – newsletter growth platform.
- Upwork – for finding global editors and creators (Scott’s preferred starting point).
- HubSpot – case study for shifting from SEO to media networks.
- Gary Vaynerchuk / VaynerMedia – example of media-first business building.
- Alex Hormozi – example of massive content-driven product launches.
Scott Clary is a dynamic entrepreneur, investor, and author. He hosts the Success Story podcast, where he has candid conversations with some of the most prolific business & thought leaders in the world.
Links:
- Website: https://www.scottdclary.com/
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/scottdclary
- Podcast: https://www.successstorypodcast.com/
- Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/scottdclarypage/
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/scottdclary
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scottdclary
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