'Listen, Listen, Speak' with Jay Kim

If you struggle to keep your thoughts to yourself in the internet age, you’re not alone. On this episode of Being Human, host Steve Cuss admits that he struggles with a core belief that sounds something like the world needs my opinion. What are Christians to do in an era when there’s nonstop opportunity to reply, comment, and react? 

On this episode, Cuss welcomes someone he looks up to in this regard: Jay Kim, lead pastor of WestGate Church in San Jose, California and author of several books, including his latest, Listen, Listen, Speak. Kim and Cuss consider the implications of God as infinite and humans as finite and the immensity of eternity. They talk about Kim’s emphasis on listening, formative moments in his faith, and how he believes social media is shaping people. Their conversation covers spiritual practices that can help us remain rooted in a tumultuous era and points to the characteristics of God reflected in creatures and creation. 

Resources mentioned in this episode include: 

• Jay Kim
• WestGate Church
• Analog Church: Why We Need Real People, Places, and Things in the Digital Age
• Analog Christian: Cultivating Contentment, Resilience, and Wisdom in the Digital Age by Jay Y. Kim
• Listen, Listen, Speak: Hearing God and Being Heard in a Noisy World by Jay Y. Kim
• Gravity
• Interstellar
• Neil Postman
• Hate Inc.: Why Today’s Media Makes Us Despise One Another by Matt Taibbi
• The Art Institute of Chicago
• Nighthawks by Edward Hopper
• The Weight of Glory by C.S. Lewis
• Bo Burnham: Inside
• “The Ignatian Examen”
• The Lord’s Prayer
• Andy Crouch
• Joshua Tree

“Being Human with Steve Cuss” is a production of Christianity Today

Executive Produced by Erik Petrik and Mike Cosper

Produced and Edited by Matt Stevens

Associate Producers: McKenzie Hill, Raed Gilliam, and Abby Perry

Theme song by Dan Phelps

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