
The Oprah Winfrey Show: The Podcast What Five Words Describe Your Marriage?
Jan 20, 2026
In a captivating discussion, Gary Zukav, a renowned spiritual teacher and author of The Seat of the Soul, delves into what it means to have a spiritual partnership. He emphasizes the transformative power of intention and the importance of emotional awareness in relationships. Gary highlights the significance of changing oneself before attempting to change a partner and encourages listeners to confront their fears and insecurities. By doing so, couples can foster growth and genuine intimacy, moving beyond traditional relationship myths.
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Start With Five Honest Words
- Write five honest words that describe your marriage or current relationship right now.
- When your partner sees their own five words, use them to start a real conversation about change.
Spiritual Means Self-Knowledge
- "Spiritual" refers to knowing your feelings, intentions, fears, and loves — not religion.
- Being spiritual means intending to heal parts of yourself that create destructively.
Partnerships Can Be Spiritual
- A spiritual partnership is an equal partnership aimed at spiritual growth.
- It can exist in families, workplaces, teams, or any group committed to mutual growth.




