Jocko Podcast

The Debrief w/ Jocko and Dave Berke #19: Winning An Argument May Create A Bigger Problem

Aug 12, 2021
In this discussion, the complexities of teamwork in tech are revealed, emphasizing that winning an argument doesn’t guarantee the best outcome. Team dynamics are compared to Top Gun, showcasing how dominant voices can stifle collaboration. The importance of humility and communication in leadership is highlighted, alongside the necessity for detachment and perspective in decision-making. Additionally, parallels are drawn between GPS technology and cognitive processes, advocating for mental flexibility. Finally, emotional detachment is presented as essential for effective leadership.
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ANECDOTE

Top Gun Observation

  • At Top Gun, the loudest, most forceful instructors were often the least effective.
  • Their closed-mindedness made others less receptive to their ideas.
ADVICE

Influencing Through Listening

  • To influence others, listen to them and be open to their ideas.
  • Allow yourself to be influenced; embrace mutual respect and trust.
INSIGHT

The Best Plan

  • Arguing about plans is arguing about the unknown future.
  • The best plan is often the one the team is most invested in, regardless of its initial perceived quality.
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