Kate decides she might need to give up TikTok and Doree learns she’s got a bunch of new hair growth. Then, they welcome Cyndie Spiegel, bestselling author and the founder of Dear Grown Ass Women, to talk about finding microjoys during grief and sorrow, learning how to borrow the joy of others through gifting, and the skin-tillating “lubey” effects of a gua sha oil.

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Episode 257: Accessing Joy with Cyndie Spiegel