Many know that Tucson Fire Chief Chuck Ryan is a staunch advocate for firefighter health and safety, but he’s also a big believer in giving a little grace. Leadership is challenging, so our default assumptions shouldn’t be that leadership just doesn’t get it. After all, Chief Ryan says, “No fire chief comes to work and says, ‘How can I mess with my people today? How can I make their lives uncomfortable and miserable today?’” Ryan offers insights from his years in a variety of leadership positions as well as lessons learned from one of the most challenging calls of his career – a 2021 shooting he describes as, “the worst of circumstances handled in the best of ways.” Plus, we dig into all of this: The power of a good relationship with the local police chief; the switch from lawyer to firefighter and his “do-over” fire service career move; and the fireboat mishap that left Ryan in treading water in the Potomac River.

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