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Episode 152: The Evolution of Agile: A Conversation with Joshua Kerievsky of Industrial Logic

Jan 3, 2024
Joshua Keievsky, founder and CEO of Industrial Logic, joins Melissa Perri to discuss the evolution of Agility in business. They talk through his book, 'The Joy of Agility,' and the six mantras he's identified in the implementation of Agile working into business strategy. They discuss the importance of understanding when to be slow and when to be fast in product development. They also explore the benefits of being product led and working with executives and other departments. The chapter also emphasizes the importance of automated testing and test-driven development for software quality and the significance of starting small and evolving for agility in building products. Cross functional collaboration in Agile teams is highlighted as well.
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Quick takeaways

  • Agility should be embraced as a quick, resourceful, and adaptive approach in all aspects of work and life.
  • Prioritization and limiting work in progress effectively is crucial for successful product development.

Deep dives

The Importance of an Organizational Approach to Product Development

Creating great products goes beyond the work of product managers and developers. It requires a comprehensive approach that encompasses the entire organization, including systems, processes, and culture. This approach enables companies to deliver value to their customers. Joshua Caraveski, CEO of Industrial Logic, emphasizes the need for a whole-company mindset when it comes to agility and product development, as outlined in his book, 'The Joy of Agility.' He argues that agility should not be limited to specific frameworks like Scrum but should be embraced as a quick, resourceful, and adaptive approach in all aspects of work and life.

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