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Talk Your Book: How Private Credit Works

Mar 17, 2025
Phil Baur, SVP and Portfolio Specialist at Calamos Investments and former pro baseball player, dives into the intriguing world of private credit. He breaks down how it differs from high yield lending, and the advantages it offers during economic fluctuations. The conversation highlights emerging opportunities in commercial real estate and the importance of risk assessment for financial advisors. Baur also touches on the structural aspects of private credit funds, emphasizing modern underwriting and diversification strategies.
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Quick takeaways

  • Private credit has outperformed traditional bank loans and high-yield markets by three to four percent over the past 15 to 20 years, attracting investors amid market volatility.
  • The introduction of interval funds has made private credit more accessible, offering investors a blend of liquidity and a focus on long-term performance without forced liquidation pressures.

Deep dives

The Rise of Private Credit

Private credit has gained prominence in recent years, particularly due to its performance history and the comfort investors have developed with the asset class. Over a span of 15 to 20 years, private credit has consistently delivered net returns that surpass traditional bank loans and high-yield markets by three to four percent, net of fees. This increasing acceptance is further fueled by the introduction of various fund structures, including interval funds and non-traded business development companies (BDCs), making private credit more accessible. The shift in investor focus coincided with a volatile market environment in 2022, where correlations between stocks and bonds rose, prompting many to seek refuge in private credit as a reliable income source.

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