Ep 111 - The Magic of Time & Space in Being and in Writing with Lisbeth White

“ If you’re really looking at the transformation, everything needs to have more than one entrance or more than one gateway” -Lisbeth White

For today’s episode, I have the lovely Lisbeth White. She is a lover of the earth and wanderer of lands, an alumna of VONA, Bread Loaf Environmental Conference, Tin House and Callaloo Creative Writing workshops. Her writing has been published in Obsidian and she is co-editor of the anthology Poetry as Spellcasting: Poems,Essays, and Prompts for Manifesting Liberation and Reclaiming Power, forthcoming in Spring of 2023. Her debut poetry collection, American Sycamore, winner of the Perugia Press Prize, that will be published in Fall 2022.

In this conversation, Lisbeth and I talk about how we balance engaging in the spiritual realm with the mundane of the physical world. She shares about what it’s like to be a witchy writer of color and how one practice informs the other and vice versa. She gives us a glimpse into her writing process, talking about how she tries to stay open to the magic of possibility, of discovery. It’s all about surrender. (Easier said than done! Hah!) We also talk about the importance of REST - real rest!-- and the work (hah!) required to unlearn our conditioning, to give ourselves permission to REST!

Take a listen to also learn how Lisbeth made the shift into full-time writer after closing her private practice and the learnings she’s gathered in the process. Also! There’s a bonus secret “half episode” at the end. Shhh… haha!

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Today’s poems/ Books / Oracle / Tarot Reading mentioned:

• Tarot Card: The Black Panther
• “Sonnets to Orpheus: Number Two” by Rainer Maria Rilke