June 15, 2025 — Award-winning UFO Historian Jerome Clark

Gene and cohost Tim Swartz present a very special episode featuring UFO historian Jerome Clark. Among the topics to be discussed, the recent controversial article from the Wall Street Journal claiming many UFO events are really based on government disinformation. Also on the agenda: his career as a music lyricist. Jerome is the prize-winning author of more than a dozen books, including Hidden Realms, Lost Civilizations, and Beings from Other Worlds; Strange Skies: Pilot Encounters with UFOs; the multi-volume UFO Encyclopedia; and Unnatural Phenomena. He serves on the board of the J. Allen Center for UFO Studies and is the co-editor of its magazine, International UFO Reporter. In 2008, Jerome received the Dinsdale Award given by the Society of Scientific Exploration for significant contributions to the expansion of human understanding through the study of unexplained phenomena. He has been featured in such television programs as the 1997 A&E Network documentary "Where Are All the UFOs?," which examined the history of the UFO phenomenon. In 2005, he discussed the early history of the U.S. Military's UFO investigations on the prime-time special, "Peter Jennings Reporting: UFOs — Seeing Is Believing." In addition to the Peter Jennings special, Clark has also appeared on episodes of NBC's Unsolved Mysteries television series and on the syndicated television series Sightings. And Gene and Jerome have been friends for nearly 60 years.

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