This is a conversation with⁠William C. Anderson⁠, author of the book⁠The Nation on No Map⁠ (AK Press 2021) and co-author of⁠As Black as Resistance⁠ (AK Press 2018). He’s also the co-founder of⁠Offshoot Journal⁠ and provides creative direction as a producer of the⁠Black Autonomy Podcast⁠.

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Transcriptions: Transcriptions are done byAntidote Zine and will be published on The Fire These Times’ transcript archive.

Credits:

Host: Elia Ayoub | Guest: William C Anderson | Music:⁠⁠⁠Rap and Revenge⁠⁠⁠ | TFTT theme design:Wenyi Geng⁠⁠⁠ | FTP theme design:Hisham Rifai⁠ | Sound editor: Elliott Miskovicz | Team profile pics: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Molly Crabapple⁠⁠⁠⁠ | Episode design: Elia Ayoub | Producer: Elliott Miskovicz and Elia Ayoub

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