This American Life

874: Under One Roof

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Nov 16, 2025
Heather Gay, a former Mormon and reality TV star, shares her experience of hiding her rebellious lifestyle from her daughters as they reveal surprising insights about their family dynamics. Valerie Kipnis narrates the Rivera family's harrowing immigration struggles, focusing on Fidel's decision to self-deport after years of undocumented status. The daughters, Mackenzie and Bella, candidly express their fears and emotions, showcasing how their perspectives on family decisions differ. The complex interplay of love, fear, and sacrifice unfolds behind closed doors.
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ANECDOTE

Double Life Behind Church Appearances

  • Heather lived a double life as a devout Mormon leader while secretly drinking and breaking rules.
  • She hid vodka and coffee rituals from her kids and learned to lie quickly to keep appearances.
ANECDOTE

The Keurig That Meant More

  • A Keurig purchase became a secret signal between Heather and her daughter Ashley about coffee and rebellion.
  • Ashley remembers buying it for her mom to drink coffee, while Heather remembered it as a harmless gift from a partner.
INSIGHT

Different Meanings Under One Roof

  • Family members can observe the same object and infer radically different meanings based on hidden contexts.
  • Heather's and Ashley's differing memories show how secrecy reshapes shared reality.
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