The SSI Orbit Podcast – Self-Sovereign Identity, Decentralization and Digital Trust #47 - Mobile Driving Licence (mDL): Exploring ISO 18013-5&7 (with Andrew Hughes)
Andrew Hughes CISM CISSP is Director of Identity Standards at Ping Identity. He is a digital identity strategist contributing to international standards development. He works with international associations and standards bodies as a domain expert, developing standards and related conformity assessment materials. Andrew serves on the Board of Directors of Kantara Initiative, and as the Chair of the Kantara Leadership Council. As a national expert delegate for Standards Canada on digital identity, he contributes to development of international standards at ISO SC 27 for identity management and ISO SC 17 for mobile driving licenses and mobile eID. Andrew is currently investigating how the worlds of Government Issued Photo ID can co-exist with the emerging Verifiable Credentials models, in a mobile-first manner.
About Podcast Episode
Read more about the episode by heading to https://northernblock.io/mobile-driving-licence-mdl-exploring-iso-18013-5-7.
Some of the key topics covered during this episode with Andrew are:
- Distinguishing the mobile driving licence (mDL) credential type from a verifiable credential (VC).
- How the mDL standard is working towards being consumed by other credential transport protocols (e.g., DIDComm, OIDC4VC)
- Can the same ISO standard for mDL be used to issue non-driving licence credentials? And should it?
- Do issuers of driving licences consider mDL it as a driving licence credential, or an identity credential?
- What does the ecosystem look like for mDL vs the one for physical driving licences? Who are some new participants that aren’t involved in physical DL production and governance?
- Why implementation supersedes the standard work.
- What are some interesting use cases around mDL that are gaining traction?
- How ISO works and how the relevant mDL sub-committees are evolving the standard.
- Are there concerns with the mobile hardware and OS providers gaining too much control over the mDL credentials?
Where to find Andrew?
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-hughes-682058a/
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/IDIMAndrew
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