Here's a bonus episode from Devin's conversation with Joei Chan on her post, Good Boss, Bad Boss. It's a meaty one where she share lots of secrets about being a good and bad boss, and stories from her time as the boss of all bosses (CEO).

Also, season 4 is dropping soon! We're kicking off season 4 on 2/6 with a live show on YouTube. You won't want to miss it. (And if it's past 2/6/24—press play already.)

Listen to Good Boss Bad Boss on Apple, on Spotify, or on YouTube (or wherever you get your podcasts).

Connect with Joei: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joeichan/

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