The Daily

A Small Act of Rebellion

Nov 12, 2019

Julie Hirschfeld Davis, the Congressional editor of The New York Times, brings her political expertise to the discussion surrounding DACA. She reveals how a key decision by former Acting Secretary Elaine Duke, who resisted pressure to end the program, shapes the legal landscape. The conversation dives into the internal conflicts within the Trump administration and highlights the significant role of independent journalism in the ongoing DACA legal battles. With nearly 700,000 Dreamers' futures hanging in the balance, the stakes couldn't be higher.

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Intro

2min

DACA Under Fire: Internal Struggles

5min

The Ticking Time Bomb of DACA

3min

DACA's Legal Battle: Policy and Politics

8min

DACA's Fate and the Call for Animal Rescue

4min

Today, the Supreme Court begins hearing arguments about whether the Trump administration acted legally when it tried to end Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals. The Obama-era program known as DACA shields immigrants who were brought to the United States as children, known as Dreamers, from deportation.

In this episode, we explore why the outcome of the case may turn on a small act of rebellion by one of President Trump’s former cabinet members.

Guest: Julie Hirschfeld Davis, the congressional editor of The New York Times. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily.

Background reading:

Elaine C. Duke, a former Acting Secretary of Homeland Security, refused to echo the White House’s policy justifications for ending DACA. Her decision led to a Supreme Court case addressing presidential power over immigration.
Meet two of the nearly 700,000 Dreamers whose families, homes and jobs may be affected by the justices’ ruling.

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