Ron Pope is a platinum selling independent artist, Blair Clark is CEO and Director of Marketing & Strategy at the independent record label they own - Brooklyn Basement Records - as well as an artist manager, and they are also married. In this special episode we get both the artist's point of view, and the "business" point of view on some of the tools to maintain sanity, and inspiration while building a long and sustainable career around your art.

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Ron Pope & Blair Clark on staying independent, calculated risks, and letting things pass.