Pondering AI

Policy and Practice with Miriam Vogel

Jun 5, 2024

Miriam Vogel, policy and practice innovator, discusses the importance of good AI hygiene, regulatory progress, and boosting literacy and diversity in AI. She emphasizes the need for standardized and context-specific guidance, transparency, and a multi-disciplinary mindset. Vogel highlights the business value of beneficial AI and the importance of AI liability for businesses. She sees regulation as a way to spur innovation and trust, outlining progress in federal AI policies and the need for collective AI literacy. Vogel urges asking critical questions to ensure benefitting from AI opportunities.

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Good AI hygiene involves clear accountability and documentation for safe and effective AI utilization.

Engaging diverse stakeholders fosters inclusive governance and promotes trust in AI systems.

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Navigating Bias and Harms in AI through Past Solutions

Bias and harms in AI echo issues faced in the workplace and in law enforcement. Lessons learned from addressing bias in labor markets and law enforcement can guide AI regulation. Addressing AI challenges aligns with historical strategies used in regulating innovations like airplanes, cars, and computers.

Intro

2min

Building on the Past to Govern the Future: Lessons from AI Innovation

12min

Importance of Participatory Governance in AI Development

9min

Exploring Misconceptions about Regulation and Policy in AI

2min

Enhancing AI Literacy in Policymaking and Government Agencies

4min

Exploring AI literacy, engagement, and best practices

3min

Miriam Vogel disputes AI is lawless, endorses good AI hygiene, reviews regulatory progress and pitfalls, boosts literacy and diversity, and remains net positive on AI.

Miriam Vogel traverses her unforeseen path from in-house counsel to public policy innovator. Miriam acknowledges that AI systems raise some novel questions but reiterates there is much to learn from existing policies and laws. Drawing analogies to flying and driving, Miriam demonstrates the need for both standardized and context-specific guidance.

Miriam and Kimberly then discuss what constitutes good AI hygiene, what meaningful transparency looks like, and why a multi-disciplinary mindset matters. While reiterating the business value of beneficial AI Miriam notes businesses are now on notice regarding their AI liability. She is clear-sighted regarding the complexity, but views regulation done right as a means to spur innovation and trust. In that vein, Miriam outlines the progress to-date and work still to come to enact federal AI policies and raise our collective AI literacy. Lastly, Miriam raises questions everyone should ask to ensure we each benefit from the opportunities AI presents.

Miriam Vogel is the President and CEO of Equal AI, a non-profit movement committed to reducing bias and responsibly governing AI. Miriam also chairs the US National AI Advisory Committee (NAIAC).

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Pondering AI

Policy and Practice with Miriam Vogel

Episode guests

Podcast summary created with Snipd AI

Quick takeaways

Deep dives

Navigating Bias and Harms in AI through Past Solutions

Importance of Responsible Governance in AI Companies

Need for Clear Accountability and Documentation in AI Implementation

Ensuring Inclusive AI Governance through Stakeholder Engagement

Remember Everything You Learn from Podcasts